Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is > _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 > protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
Charles wrote: > "Joerg" <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message > news:kDtgk.8670$L_.11@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is >> _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 >> protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
>> -- >> Regards, Joerg
> http://www.control4.com/ and others ... Google "home automation." They all > have limitations.
Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote: >Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is >_not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 >protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is > _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 > protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
Have you looked at the Intellion powerline modem ICs?
>> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is >> _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 >> protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
> Charles wrote: > > "Joerg" <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message > >news:kDtgk.8670$L_.11@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... > >> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is > >> _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 > >> protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is >> _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 >> protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
> Have you looked at the Intellion powerline modem ICs?
I've only seen patents from them. But if I have to roll my own wusing some specialty chip I'd rather do it from scratch, MSP430 or PSoC. I don't have a lot of trust in powerline comms companies anymore.
> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is > _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 > protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
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Is it the price of wireless or just being wireless that you don't like?
If it's just the price, then look at Z-Wave. It's older technology than ZigBee but it's works darn well. I've ripped out all my X10 stuff and replaced it with Z-Wave.
The thing that I really like about it is that every device acts as a repeater, so controller-to-device distance usually isn't an issue.
> On Jul 19, 3:30 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> > wrote:
> > Charles wrote: > > > "Joerg" <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message > > >news:kDtgk.8670$L_.11@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... > > >> Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is > > >> _not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 > > >> protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
I had the same experience. Left me in an extreme state of disgust that company making those "products" would have audacity to sell them knowing how bad the quality is.
<notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote: >Is there anything better than this cheesy X10 stuff, something that is >_not_ RF based like zigbee would be, and still affordable? The X10 >protocol is not good and the modules are IMHO utter junk.
Runs on 908.42MHz in the US and 868.42MHz in EU at 9600 baud. 30 meters indoors and 100 meters outdoors. It can be bi-directional so you have some indication that the device actually responded. X10 is unidirectional. 232(?) nodes maximum per network. It is setup as a mesh networks to extend range (i.e. no central access point) with self routing and self healing routes.
I've played with some of the Leviton Vizia products and find them "good enough". That means that they do what's advertised, but I sure would like to see some more features, diagnostics, monitoring, and clues as to what's happening.
