Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
Ans. Nuclear Agreement between India - USA :MUST READ BY EVERY INDIAN
There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement which I have read and sharing with you.
What is 123 Agreement?
This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power Act Section 123. Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are pledged...
(1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment & technology to India for producing Nuclear Power.
(2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of International Atomic Power Organisation.
(3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.
If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But
(1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology supplied to India thus far.
(2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of the status of the agreement.
On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.
The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.
This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.
Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2
Requirement of Power
The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production to be increased to meet the demand.
Power Production in India
Presently following are the figures:
Thermal Power 66%
Hydel Power 26%
Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing this power.
Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.
Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??
URANIUM
We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment the supply, we need to sign the 123 Agreement to get Uranium from USA. But we will have to declare to USA from which power plant India takes raw material for producing Atom Bomb. Why should we disclose our internal secrets to those rascals ? Will any one allow an outsider to continuously monitor what's happening in your Hall & Kitchen of your house? Other study reveals that Uranium is available in India aplenty. Only hurdle is the acquisition of land. To produce Atomic Power & Bomb in the next 40 years, the requirement of Uranium is 25,000 MT whereas the availability is 78,000 MT across India.
PLUTONIUM
Presently 35% of Plutonium is used to produce Atomic Bombs. After signing the Agreement, we will be allowed to use only 10%. Who are those rascals to restrict the usage of our natural resource ? That is though you are capable of cooking & eating 10 idlis as your breakfast, you are allowed only 3 idlis henceforth. How can it be? Why should we accept this?
THORIUM
As told by Dr.APJ, we have abundant Thorium. In fact we are the 2nd largest producer of Thorium next only to Australia. India has to explore this further for producing power. For your information, in South India - particularly around Kanyakumari, the availability of Thorium is abundant.
INDIA-IRAN-CHINA
USA does not like the amicable relationship between India-Iran and also India-China. If India-China relationship gets stronger, then both these can rule the Eastern Part of the Globe which USA wants to break as per their divide & rule.
By signing this agreement, USA wants India to depend on it for producing power which is going to be a crucial factor in future. There is a talk of bringing Natural Gas from Iran to India with a big pipeline project. USA doesn't like this proposal.
Atomic Power Technology
Whether power is produced or Bomb is produced, using Atomic power without spoiling the infrastructure and without allowing the radiation is always under threat. Moreover preserving the wastes coming out of Atomic Power Plants is expensive & unsafe.
There was an accident in Three Miles Island in USA. To close this plant nearly USD 200 Crores spent with tons & tons of concrete but yet to be fully closed.
In an another accident at Soviet Union's Serbia Plant, even the next generation child are affected due to the radiation.
It will be very very expensive to defuse & close down an Atomic Power Plant than its construction cost.
France
France has got 56 Nuclear Power stations producing 73% of the country's total power requirement. They are catching up the problem of eliminating the wastes / emissions from out of those plants at the same time increase the power production capacity. Government of France is now thinking how to reduce the power consumption in the country.
Conclusion
In view of the above danger, rather than signing the agreement and pledging India to USA, it will be prudent to increase the Solar & Wind Energy and more importantly Hyder Power Production can be increased by linking all rivers across India and by constructing DAMS. (Ofcourse Dam construction projects can be given to L&T's B&F Sector:-)
The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of signing this agreement has taken place with political motive. On the contrary, neither this Government nor any other earlier Central Government could not amend the Constitution thereby nationalise the rivers across the country thereby effectively utilise the water resources for both Agriculture purpose and producing Hydel Power. What an irony?
Whenever someone is helping the needy, you can't expect the TERMS AND CONDITIONS BETWEEN THE needy and the helper to be EQUAL??? BUT
(1) the helper's ulterior motive should be seen with broad eye because he is capable of digging a grave behind you and
(2) better to be self-sufficient and explore new avenues with available resources.
INDIA-CHINA-USA
India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of Education is Very Good.
China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined.
USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over others. Particularly wants a firm footing in South Asia. Remember the introduction EURO by European Countries and it is stronger than Dollar? So their "DAL" cannot be boiled at "EUROPE". They are trying in India as already Pakistan is in their clutches.
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Akhil Jain <akhiljai...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
> Ans. Nuclear Agreement between India - USA :MUST READ BY EVERY INDIAN
> There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it > almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
> to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement > which I have read and sharing with you.
> What is 123 Agreement?
> This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power > Act Section 123. > Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are > pledged...
> (1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment > & technology to India for producing Nuclear Power.
> (2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is > producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that > from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is > supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But > if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also > agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of > International Atomic Power Organisation.
> (3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse > and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.
> If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But
> (1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology > supplied to India thus far.
> (2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of > the status of the agreement.
> On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by > them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.
> The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or > slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
> On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.
> This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.
> Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2
> Requirement of Power
> The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming > years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth > favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production > to be increased to meet the demand.
> Power Production in India
> Presently following are the figures:
> Thermal Power 66%
> Hydel Power 26%
> Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing > this power.
> Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it > requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.
> Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production > rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??
> URANIUM
> We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the > Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment the supply, we need to > sign the 123 Agreement to get Uranium from USA. But we will have to > declare to USA from which power plant India takes raw material for > producing Atom Bomb. Why should we disclose our internal secrets to > those rascals ? Will any one allow an outsider to continuously monitor > what's happening in your Hall & Kitchen of your house? Other study > reveals that Uranium is available in India aplenty. Only hurdle is the > acquisition of land. To produce Atomic Power & Bomb in the next 40 > years, the requirement of Uranium is 25,000 MT whereas the availability > is 78,000 MT across India.
> PLUTONIUM
> Presently 35% of Plutonium is used to produce Atomic Bombs. After > signing the Agreement, we will be allowed to use only 10%. Who are those > rascals to restrict the usage of our natural resource ? That is though > you are capable of cooking & eating 10 idlis as your breakfast, you are > allowed only 3 idlis henceforth. How can it be? Why should we accept > this?
> THORIUM
> As told by Dr.APJ, we have abundant Thorium. In fact we are the 2nd > largest producer of Thorium next only to Australia. India has to > explore this further for producing power. For your information, in > South India - particularly around Kanyakumari, the availability of > Thorium is abundant.
> INDIA-IRAN-CHINA
> USA does not like the amicable relationship between India-Iran and also > India-China. If India-China relationship gets stronger, then both these > can rule the Eastern Part of the Globe which USA wants to break as per > their divide & rule.
> By signing this agreement, USA wants India to depend on it for producing > power which is going to be a crucial factor in future. There is a talk > of bringing Natural Gas from Iran to India with a big pipeline project. > USA doesn't like this proposal.
> Atomic Power Technology
> Whether power is produced or Bomb is produced, using Atomic power > without spoiling the infrastructure and without allowing the radiation > is always under threat. Moreover preserving the wastes coming out of > Atomic Power Plants is expensive & unsafe.
> There was an accident in Three Miles Island in USA. To close this plant > nearly USD 200 Crores spent with tons & tons of concrete but yet to be > fully closed.
> In an another accident at Soviet Union's Serbia Plant, even the next > generation child are affected due to the radiation.
> It will be very very expensive to defuse & close down an Atomic Power > Plant than its construction cost.
> France
> France has got 56 Nuclear Power stations producing 73% of the country's > total power requirement. They are catching up the problem of > eliminating the wastes / emissions from out of those plants at the same > time increase the power production capacity. Government of France is > now thinking how to reduce the power consumption in the country.
> Conclusion
> In view of the above danger, rather than signing the agreement and > pledging India to USA, it will be prudent to increase the Solar & Wind > Energy and more importantly Hyder Power Production can be increased by > linking all rivers across India and by constructing DAMS. (Ofcourse Dam > construction projects can be given to L&T's B&F Sector:-)
> The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when > Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of > signing this agreement has taken place with political motive. On the > contrary, neither this Government nor any other earlier Central > Government could not amend the Constitution thereby nationalise the > rivers across the country thereby effectively utilise the water > resources for both Agriculture purpose and producing Hydel Power. What > an irony?
> Whenever someone is helping the needy, you can't expect the TERMS AND > CONDITIONS BETWEEN THE needy and the helper to be EQUAL??? BUT
> (1) the helper's ulterior motive should be seen with broad eye because > he is capable of digging a grave behind you and
> (2) better to be self-sufficient and explore new avenues with available > resources.
> INDIA-CHINA-USA
> India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of > Education is Very Good.
> China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined.
> USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over > others. Particularly wants a firm footing in South Asia. Remember the > introduction EURO by European Countries and it is stronger than Dollar? > So their "DAL" cannot be boiled at "EUROPE". They are trying in India > as already Pakistan is in their clutches.
-- "Every person I work with knows something better than me. My job is to listen long enough to find it and use it."
its a totally biased article, do u know that constucting a dam takes 15 years in india as every project faces as much as 10 petitions in court, than high court than supreme court. same way thermal power is not so cheap now with shortage of coal already causing most of installed plants to run below capacity. and last but not least.... this deal dont makes us dependent on USA. in fact its just a moment that if AIEA gives go ahead to the draft agreement than Russia and France will run up to do same deal with India even before USA. in fact India will be able to sources reactors andd fuel from any country of choice, not just USA. article seems to be written by some CPM member, who thinks that producing atom bombs is more important than producing power.
On 7/18/08, Akhil Jain <akhiljai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
> Ans. Nuclear Agreement between India - USA :MUST READ BY EVERY INDIAN
> There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it > almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
> to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement > which I have read and sharing with you.
> What is 123 Agreement?
> This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power > Act Section 123. > Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are > pledged...
> (1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment > & technology to India for producing Nuclear Power.
> (2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is > producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that > from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is > supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But > if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also > agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of > International Atomic Power Organisation.
> (3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse > and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.
> If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But
> (1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology > supplied to India thus far.
> (2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of > the status of the agreement.
> On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by > them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.
> The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or > slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
> On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.
> This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.
> Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2
> Requirement of Power
> The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming > years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth > favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production > to be increased to meet the demand.
> Power Production in India
> Presently following are the figures:
> Thermal Power 66%
> Hydel Power 26%
> Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing > this power.
> Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it > requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.
> Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production > rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??
> URANIUM
> We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the > Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment the supply, we need to > sign the 123 Agreement to get Uranium from USA. But we will have to > declare to USA from which power plant India takes raw material for > producing Atom Bomb. Why should we disclose our internal secrets to > those rascals ? Will any one allow an outsider to continuously monitor > what's happening in your Hall & Kitchen of your house? Other study > reveals that Uranium is available in India aplenty. Only hurdle is the > acquisition of land. To produce Atomic Power & Bomb in the next 40 > years, the requirement of Uranium is 25,000 MT whereas the availability > is 78,000 MT across India.
> PLUTONIUM
> Presently 35% of Plutonium is used to produce Atomic Bombs. After > signing the Agreement, we will be allowed to use only 10%. Who are those > rascals to restrict the usage of our natural resource ? That is though > you are capable of cooking & eating 10 idlis as your breakfast, you are > allowed only 3 idlis henceforth. How can it be? Why should we accept > this?
> THORIUM
> As told by Dr.APJ, we have abundant Thorium. In fact we are the 2nd > largest producer of Thorium next only to Australia. India has to > explore this further for producing power. For your information, in > South India - particularly around Kanyakumari, the availability of > Thorium is abundant.
> INDIA-IRAN-CHINA
> USA does not like the amicable relationship between India-Iran and also > India-China. If India-China relationship gets stronger, then both these > can rule the Eastern Part of the Globe which USA wants to break as per > their divide & rule.
> By signing this agreement, USA wants India to depend on it for producing > power which is going to be a crucial factor in future. There is a talk > of bringing Natural Gas from Iran to India with a big pipeline project. > USA doesn't like this proposal.
> Atomic Power Technology
> Whether power is produced or Bomb is produced, using Atomic power > without spoiling the infrastructure and without allowing the radiation > is always under threat. Moreover preserving the wastes coming out of > Atomic Power Plants is expensive & unsafe.
> There was an accident in Three Miles Island in USA. To close this plant > nearly USD 200 Crores spent with tons & tons of concrete but yet to be > fully closed.
> In an another accident at Soviet Union's Serbia Plant, even the next > generation child are affected due to the radiation.
> It will be very very expensive to defuse & close down an Atomic Power > Plant than its construction cost.
> France
> France has got 56 Nuclear Power stations producing 73% of the country's > total power requirement. They are catching up the problem of > eliminating the wastes / emissions from out of those plants at the same > time increase the power production capacity. Government of France is > now thinking how to reduce the power consumption in the country.
> Conclusion
> In view of the above danger, rather than signing the agreement and > pledging India to USA, it will be prudent to increase the Solar & Wind > Energy and more importantly Hyder Power Production can be increased by > linking all rivers across India and by constructing DAMS. (Ofcourse Dam > construction projects can be given to L&T's B&F Sector:-)
> The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when > Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of > signing this agreement has taken place with political motive. On the > contrary, neither this Government nor any other earlier Central > Government could not amend the Constitution thereby nationalise the > rivers across the country thereby effectively utilise the water > resources for both Agriculture purpose and producing Hydel Power. What > an irony?
> Whenever someone is helping the needy, you can't expect the TERMS AND > CONDITIONS BETWEEN THE needy and the helper to be EQUAL??? BUT
> (1) the helper's ulterior motive should be seen with broad eye because > he is capable of digging a grave behind you and
> (2) better to be self-sufficient and explore new avenues with available > resources.
> INDIA-CHINA-USA
> India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of > Education is Very Good.
> China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined.
> USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over > others. Particularly wants a firm footing in South Asia. Remember the > introduction EURO by European Countries and it is stronger than Dollar? > So their "DAL" cannot be boiled at "EUROPE". They are trying in India > as already Pakistan is in their clutches.
Mr Akhil Jain must know that the increasing production via thermal power raises the chances of Global Warming. Even in USA they are aiming to switch to clean power in 10-15 years.
Ask any person living in UP & Bihar, they will tell how important electricity is for them.
This agreement is a must for INDIA.
USA is super power because of his economic progress which leads to ripple effect in other area.
USSR used to have all the atomic power yet it disintegrated.
Why we need Atomic Bomb in first place ???
If we can erradicate corruption, we will acquire more power than Atomic Bombs.
----- Original Message ----- From: Head Hunter To: aiii@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:22 PM
Subject: <<Aiii>> Re: Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
kindly give us the exact text of the agreement...trust you leave the conclusion part to us
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Akhil Jain <akhiljai...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
Ans. Nuclear Agreement between India - USA :MUST READ BY EVERY INDIAN
There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement which I have read and sharing with you.
What is 123 Agreement?
This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power Act Section 123. Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are pledged...
(1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment & technology to India for producing Nuclear Power.
(2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of International Atomic Power Organisation.
(3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.
If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But
(1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology supplied to India thus far.
(2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of the status of the agreement.
On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.
The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.
This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.
Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2
Requirement of Power
The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production to be increased to meet the demand.
Power Production in India
Presently following are the figures:
Thermal Power 66%
Hydel Power 26%
Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing this power.
Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.
Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??
URANIUM
We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment the supply, we need to sign the 123 Agreement to get Uranium from USA. But we will have to declare to USA from which power plant India takes raw material for producing Atom Bomb. Why should we disclose our internal secrets to those rascals ? Will any one allow an outsider to continuously monitor what's happening in your Hall & Kitchen of your house? Other study reveals that Uranium is available in India aplenty. Only hurdle is the acquisition of land. To produce Atomic Power & Bomb in the next 40 years, the requirement of Uranium is 25,000 MT whereas the availability is 78,000 MT across India.
PLUTONIUM
Presently 35% of Plutonium is used to produce Atomic Bombs. After signing the Agreement, we will be allowed to use only 10%. Who are those rascals to restrict the usage of our natural resource ? That is though you are capable of cooking & eating 10 idlis as your breakfast, you are allowed only 3 idlis henceforth. How can it be? Why should we accept this?
THORIUM
As told by Dr.APJ, we have abundant Thorium. In fact we are the 2nd largest producer of Thorium next only to Australia. India has to explore this further for producing power. For your information, in South India - particularly around Kanyakumari, the availability of Thorium is abundant.
INDIA-IRAN-CHINA
USA does not like the amicable relationship between India-Iran and also India-China. If India-China relationship gets stronger, then both these can rule the Eastern Part of the Globe which USA wants to break as per their divide & rule.
By signing this agreement, USA wants India to depend on it for producing power which is going to be a crucial factor in future. There is a talk of bringing Natural Gas from Iran to India with a big pipeline project. USA doesn't like this proposal.
Atomic Power Technology
Whether power is produced or Bomb is produced, using Atomic power without spoiling the infrastructure and without allowing the radiation is always under threat. Moreover preserving the wastes coming out of Atomic Power Plants is expensive & unsafe.
There was an accident in Three Miles Island in USA. To close this plant nearly USD 200 Crores spent with tons & tons of concrete but yet to be fully closed.
In an another accident at Soviet Union's Serbia Plant, even the next generation child are affected due to the radiation.
It will be very very expensive to defuse & close down an Atomic Power Plant than its construction cost.
France
France has got 56 Nuclear Power stations producing 73% of the country's total power requirement. They are catching up the problem of eliminating the wastes / emissions from out of those plants at the same time increase the power production capacity. Government of France is now thinking how to reduce the power consumption in the country.
Conclusion
In view of the above danger, rather than signing the agreement and pledging India to USA, it will be prudent to increase the Solar & Wind Energy and more importantly Hyder Power Production can be increased by linking all rivers across India and by constructing DAMS. (Ofcourse Dam construction projects can be given to L&T's B&F Sector:-)
The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of signing this agreement has taken place with political motive. On the contrary, neither this Government nor any other earlier Central Government could not amend the Constitution thereby nationalise the rivers across the country thereby effectively utilise the water resources for both Agriculture purpose and producing Hydel Power. What an irony?
Whenever someone is helping the needy, you can't expect the TERMS AND CONDITIONS BETWEEN THE needy and the helper to be EQUAL??? BUT
(1) the helper's ulterior motive should be seen with broad eye because he is capable of digging a grave behind you and
(2) better to be self-sufficient and explore new avenues with available resources.
INDIA-CHINA-USA
India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of Education is Very Good.
China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined.
USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over others. Particularly wants a firm footing in South Asia. Remember the introduction EURO by European Countries and it is stronger than Dollar? So their "DAL" cannot be boiled at "EUROPE". They are trying in India as already Pakistan is in their clutches.
-- "Every person I work with knows something better than me. My job is to listen long enough to find it and use it."
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Head Hunter <kumars...@gmail.com> wrote: > kindly give us the exact text of the agreement...trust you leave the > conclusion part to us
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Akhil Jain <akhiljai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
>> Ans. Nuclear Agreement between India - USA :MUST READ BY EVERY INDIAN
>> There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it >> almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
>> to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement >> which I have read and sharing with you.
>> What is 123 Agreement?
>> This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power >> Act Section 123. >> Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are >> pledged...
>> (1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment >> & technology to India for producing Nuclear Power.
>> (2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is >> producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that >> from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is >> supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But >> if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also >> agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of >> International Atomic Power Organisation.
>> (3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse >> and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.
>> If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But
>> (1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology >> supplied to India thus far.
>> (2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of >> the status of the agreement.
>> On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by >> them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.
>> The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or >> slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
>> On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.
>> This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.
>> Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2
>> Requirement of Power
>> The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming >> years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth >> favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production >> to be increased to meet the demand.
>> Power Production in India
>> Presently following are the figures:
>> Thermal Power 66%
>> Hydel Power 26%
>> Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing >> this power.
>> Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it >> requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.
>> Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production >> rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??
>> URANIUM
>> We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the >> Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment the supply, we need to >> sign the 123 Agreement to get Uranium from USA. But we will have to >> declare to USA from which power plant India takes raw material for >> producing Atom Bomb. Why should we disclose our internal secrets to >> those rascals ? Will any one allow an outsider to continuously monitor >> what's happening in your Hall & Kitchen of your house? Other study >> reveals that Uranium is available in India aplenty. Only hurdle is the >> acquisition of land. To produce Atomic Power & Bomb in the next 40 >> years, the requirement of Uranium is 25,000 MT whereas the availability >> is 78,000 MT across India.
>> PLUTONIUM
>> Presently 35% of Plutonium is used to produce Atomic Bombs. After >> signing the Agreement, we will be allowed to use only 10%. Who are those >> rascals to restrict the usage of our natural resource ? That is though >> you are capable of cooking & eating 10 idlis as your breakfast, you are >> allowed only 3 idlis henceforth. How can it be? Why should we accept >> this?
>> THORIUM
>> As told by Dr.APJ, we have abundant Thorium. In fact we are the 2nd >> largest producer of Thorium next only to Australia. India has to >> explore this further for producing power. For your information, in >> South India - particularly around Kanyakumari, the availability of >> Thorium is abundant.
>> INDIA-IRAN-CHINA
>> USA does not like the amicable relationship between India-Iran and also >> India-China. If India-China relationship gets stronger, then both these >> can rule the Eastern Part of the Globe which USA wants to break as per >> their divide & rule.
>> By signing this agreement, USA wants India to depend on it for producing >> power which is going to be a crucial factor in future. There is a talk >> of bringing Natural Gas from Iran to India with a big pipeline project. >> USA doesn't like this proposal.
>> Atomic Power Technology
>> Whether power is produced or Bomb is produced, using Atomic power >> without spoiling the infrastructure and without allowing the radiation >> is always under threat. Moreover preserving the wastes coming out of >> Atomic Power Plants is expensive & unsafe.
>> There was an accident in Three Miles Island in USA. To close this plant >> nearly USD 200 Crores spent with tons & tons of concrete but yet to be >> fully closed.
>> In an another accident at Soviet Union's Serbia Plant, even the next >> generation child are affected due to the radiation.
>> It will be very very expensive to defuse & close down an Atomic Power >> Plant than its construction cost.
>> France
>> France has got 56 Nuclear Power stations producing 73% of the country's >> total power requirement. They are catching up the problem of >> eliminating the wastes / emissions from out of those plants at the same >> time increase the power production capacity. Government of France is >> now thinking how to reduce the power consumption in the country.
>> Conclusion
>> In view of the above danger, rather than signing the agreement and >> pledging India to USA, it will be prudent to increase the Solar & Wind >> Energy and more importantly Hyder Power Production can be increased by >> linking all rivers across India and by constructing DAMS. (Ofcourse Dam >> construction projects can be given to L&T's B&F Sector:-)
>> The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when >> Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of >> signing this agreement has taken place with political motive. On the >> contrary, neither this Government nor any other earlier Central >> Government could not amend the Constitution thereby nationalise the >> rivers across the country thereby effectively utilise the water >> resources for both Agriculture purpose and producing Hydel Power. What >> an irony?
>> Whenever someone is helping the needy, you can't expect the TERMS AND >> CONDITIONS BETWEEN THE needy and the helper to be EQUAL??? BUT
>> (1) the helper's ulterior motive should be seen with broad eye because >> he is capable of digging a grave behind you and
>> (2) better to be self-sufficient and explore new avenues with available >> resources.
>> INDIA-CHINA-USA
>> India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of >> Education is Very Good.
>> China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined.
>> USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over >> others. Particularly wants a firm footing in South Asia. Remember the >> introduction EURO by European Countries and it is stronger than Dollar? >> So their "DAL" cannot be boiled at "EUROPE". They are trying in India >> as already Pakistan is in their clutches.
> -- > "Every person I work with knows something better than me. My job is to > listen long enough to find it and use it."
-- Dr. Sanjay Chaturvedi M.S., D.N.B.,M.N.A.M.S. Asha Arthroscopy Center, Prof. Champa Ram Chaturvedi Medical Complex 1/188 Delhi Gate, Agra
I have certain objections to the above article.They are as follows:-
a)The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of signing this agreement has taken place with political motive.
The seeds of present Indo US Nuclear deal were sown right at the time of Atal Behari-Bill Clinton era when the then Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission (and External Affairs minister) Jaswant Singh and US Deputy Secretary of Sate Strobe Talbott held a series of talk in 1999. This is something which is a common knowledge. Prospects of Indo US nuclear deal got a major boost from a shift in geopolitics post 9/11.
People still can't understand why BJP is opposed to the Deal now. Maybe that is what they call politics.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has just gone ahead with his predecessor's policy with a view to clinch the deal. Manmohan Singh-Montek Singh Ahluwalia team is very much concerned about the Energy security of India. We are quite vulnerable when it comes to energy requirements. We import 75% of our crude oil requirements. The current meltdown in Indian equity market can be largely contributed to a sharp spike in International Crude oil Prices.
b) India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of Education is Very Good.
China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined.
USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over others
This is yet another jingoistic stand which mars the Indian psyche. Rather than appreciating the difference in the culture of two hemispheres or even countries/social groups etc., we tend to glorify our own and denigrate other's culture. The difference between "US" and "THEM" is always overemphasised in our private talks.This in itself is the largest flaw in our culture.
I agree, there are problems with Nuclear deal, but we need to raise the technical points rather than juvenile arguments. Debates and discussions should be concerned with weighing the positives and negatives rather than resorting to mudslinging and personal attacks.
On 7/18/08, Akhil Jain <akhiljai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is the India's nuclear deal with US pros and cons Benefits for India?
> Ans. Nuclear Agreement between India - USA :MUST READ BY EVERY INDIAN
> There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it > almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
> to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement > which I have read and sharing with you.
> What is 123 Agreement?
> This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power > Act Section 123. > Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are > pledged...
> (1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment > & technology to India for producing Nuclear Power.
> (2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is > producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that > from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is > supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But > if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also > agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of > International Atomic Power Organisation.
> (3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse > and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.
> If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But
> (1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology > supplied to India thus far.
> (2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of > the status of the agreement.
> On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by > them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.
> The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or > slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
> On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.
> This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.
> Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2
> Requirement of Power
> The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming > years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth > favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production > to be increased to meet the demand.
> Power Production in India
> Presently following are the figures:
> Thermal Power 66%
> Hydel Power 26%
> Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing > this power.
> Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it > requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.
> Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production > rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??
> URANIUM
> We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the > Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment th
